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x4&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1560862082&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;3.99&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;516&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.066666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"NS3.1box575x767\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NS3.1box575x767-225x300.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NS3.1box575x767.jpg\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-1102\" src=\"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NS3.1box575x767-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"installing NEXTSTEP 486 3.2 on JAWS\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NS3.1box575x767-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NS3.1box575x767.jpg 575w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/?p=1135\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Working with the JAWS machine<\/a> brought me back to thinking about NEXTSTEP 486 being developed on that machine. I only know part of the story first hand. Andy Groves and Steve Jobs were friends. Between the two of them, it was decided that NeXT should create a 486 version of NEXTSTEP and that JAWS would be the best development platform. If I recall correctly, it was late December 1991 that Steve, Avie Tevanian and a few other NeXT folks came to Michael&#8217;s conference room and told Michael, Glenn Henry, probably Dennis Jolly, some other Dell folks and me about their plans. Glenn and I went to hear Steve announce NEXTSTEP 486 and demo on JAWS at NeXTWorld in January 1992. Dennis was the primary sales VP providing impetus for joint Dell\/NeXT efforts &#8212; Dennis and I would routinely go to the (in)famous NeXT headquarters in Redwood City to discuss our joint plans.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>NEXTSTEP 3.2 for the 486 was released about the time I left Dell in October 1993. Somehow I received a box or two with the installation media and documentation. For 25+ years it sat unused as I occasionally wondered if I should try NEXTSTEP 486 on my JAWS machine. Finally, I did.<\/p>\n<p>It took quite a few tries to get NEXTSTEP 3.2 working properly on the DGX. While Dell SVR4 restricted support to a subset of the peripherals Dell sold at the time, NeXT tried to support a very broad selection of peripherals. While Dell SVR4 successfully attempted to autoconfigure for most peripherals, NEXTSTEP 486 depends on the person installing the peripherals to be knowledgeable about IRQs, I\/O addresses and peripheral memory addresses. Once I was an expert at such things and am still able to sort things out adequately for NEXTSTEP.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1098\" style=\"width: 460px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NS3.2Mandelbrot.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1098\" data-attachment-id=\"1098\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/2019\/07\/01\/koko-exploring-nextstep-486\/ns3-2mandelbrot575x447\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NS3.2Mandelbrot575x447.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"575,447\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;3.4&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon PowerShot SX50 HS&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1560872288&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4.3&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;400&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0125&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Mandelbrot demo on JAWS\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NS3.2Mandelbrot575x447-300x233.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NS3.2Mandelbrot575x447.jpg\" class=\"wp-image-1098\" src=\"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NS3.2Mandelbrot575x447.jpg\" alt=\"NeXT Mandelbrot demo on JAWS\" width=\"450\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NS3.2Mandelbrot575x447.jpg 575w, https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NS3.2Mandelbrot575x447-300x233.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1098\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">NeXT Mandelbrot demo on JAWS<\/p><\/div>\n<p>NEXTSTEP 486 also seems to have a serious Y2K problem, or maybe just problems with dates in general. The installer considers dates much past 1993 to be &#8220;preposterous&#8221; and resets the date before proceeding. Once I set the date to the current date after install &#8212; the kernel panic&#8217;d on reboot and I was forced to reinstall again.<\/p>\n<p>Enough people have griped about <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/NetInfo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Netinfo<\/a> that I will limit my griping. Though I still have a couple of PowerPC Macs that run Tiger (OS X v10.4), and, in principle, could provide Netinfo service for NEXTSTEP 486, I had no desire to go that route. NEXTSTEP seems to allow for <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Network_Information_Service\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NIS<\/a>, as an alternative to Netinfo, but I had no desire to setup NIS, either. I finally figured out how to get the networking to work relatively normally without Netinfo or NIS, and get NEXTSTEP to boot uninterrupted with complaints about missing Netinfo\/NIS servers, but the trial and error was no fun, and it is still challenging to make simple network changes.<\/p>\n<p>In any case, I was thrilled to have NEXTSTEP 486 working.<\/p>\n<p>P.S. NEXTSTEP seems to not have anticipated large drives very well. Besides the IDE\/PATA problem I&#8217;ve discussed before, I haven&#8217;t gotten NEXTSTEP to install on disks larger than 1G. I can get NEXTSTEP and Dell SVR4 to dual boot on 1G drives, so I was hoping to have both available on the 9G drives I&#8217;ve been using with Dell SVR4.<\/p>\n<p>P.P.S. <a href=\"\/sauer\/199414-Bloomberg-NEXTSTEP486.pdf\">April 1993 Dell <em>et al<\/em> NEXTSTEP 486 press release<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Genghis Khan and his brother Don Could not keep on keepin&#8217; on&#8221; (1971) &#8220;You Ain&#8217;t Goin&#8217; Nowhere&#8221; &#8211; Bob Dylan Working with the JAWS machine brought me back to thinking about NEXTSTEP 486 being developed on that machine. I only know part of the story first hand. Andy Groves and Steve Jobs were friends. 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