{"id":396,"date":"2010-02-02T16:30:04","date_gmt":"2010-02-02T21:30:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/technologists.com\/notes\/?p=396"},"modified":"2022-07-02T16:03:37","modified_gmt":"2022-07-02T21:03:37","slug":"avistar-props","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/2010\/02\/02\/avistar-props\/","title":{"rendered":"Avistar props"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>After years of skepticism about Avistar&#8217;s patent licensing and litigation pursuits, I feel obligated to express admiration for Avistar&#8217;s transitioning away from those pursuits, as announced last week: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.avistar.com\/company\/news_detail.aspx?id=181\">Avistar Communications Monetizes Its Patent Portfolio and Closes Transaction with Intellectual Ventures Management, LLC<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>My skepticism dates back to first reading some of the patents in 2004 and the press releases Avistar produced regarding Microsoft&#8217;s requests for re-examination of some of the patents (see\u00a0<a title=\"Permanent Link: public display of dis-affection: Avistar patents &amp; Microsoft\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/2008\/04\/05\/public-display-of-dis-affection-avistar-patents-microsoft\/\">public display of dis-affection: Avistar patents &amp; Microsoft<\/a> and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/technologists.com\/notes\/2008\/06\/03\/avsr-vs-msft-numbers-of-patents-or-patent-numbers\/\">AVSR vs. MSFT: numbers of patents or patent numbers?<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>In hindsight, it seems that Avistar chose to change course about the time that it <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20091027093403\/http:\/\/www.avistar.com:80\/company\/news_detail.aspx?id=167\">brought Bob Kirk in as CEO last July<\/a>. After that time, Avistar said little publicly about the patents, seemingly <a href=\"https:\/\/technologists.com\/notes\/2009\/08\/10\/avsr-vs-msft-unpublicized-activity\/\">not saying anything<\/a> about U.S. PTO actions or licensing progress. January 19, two days before the Intellectual Ventures <a href=\"http:\/\/investor.shareholder.com\/avistar\/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1111632-10-4\">transaction<\/a>, Avistar sold a license to Skype for $3M. \u00a0If this had happened a couple of years ago, there would likely have been significant publicity. The only Avistar publicity about the Skype transaction appears to be the SEC 8-K <a href=\"http:\/\/investor.shareholder.com\/avistar\/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1111632-10-3\">filing<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In the January 26 press release, Bob Kirk is quoted as saying &#8220;This also removes what has been a significant distraction for the team and our operation in general, while providing us the capital to more aggressively invest in our business.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It is difficult to say more without speculation. Avistar had announced licenses with many potential licensees, but, as far as I can tell, had not succeeded in negotiating licenses with Cisco, Hewlett-Packard or Microsoft \u2014 it is hard to imagine easy negotiations with those companies. I find it easier to imagine that those companies are some of the <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20091229093454\/http:\/\/www.intellectualventures.com:80\/docs\/IVfactSheetGeneralOct09final.pdf\">investors<\/a> in Intellectual Ventures and receptive to this latest news. 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