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rel=\"noopener\">&#8220;You Ain&#8217;t Goin&#8217; Nowhere&#8221;<\/a> &#8211; Bob Dylan<\/p>\n<h4>(What is the plural of &#8220;Linux&#8221;?)<\/h4>\n<p>I guess it was trepidation from memories of <a href=\"https:\/\/notes.technologists.com\/notes\/2013\/08\/29\/finding-fedora-19-fortitude\/\">upgrading to Fedora 19<\/a>. I kept checking out the subsequent releases, 20, then 21, then 22, then 23, but not doing much with them. &#8220;Enough is enough&#8221; I said to myself, and even put my toe in the water with the beta release of Fedora 24. Five months later, I wonder what was holding me back. Though much has changed between 19 and 24, getting going with 24 really didn&#8217;t seem that hard.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Adjusting to <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/DNF_(software)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">dnf<\/a> instead of yum, especially since dnf eschews an equivalent of &#8211;skip-broken, took some reworking of FedoraInstall.sh (a script I&#8217;ve maintained for myself since Fedora 14(?)) and scripts it depends on, but wasn&#8217;t that big a deal. 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